I’ve seen it time and time again, “how do you flip players?”, “when should I buy and sell?” and “who should I pick up?”. All of that will be answered here.
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What is Flipping?
Flipping is a form of trading where you will buy a player when they’re being listed too low on the market, and sell once they are being listed at a normal, or even slightly too high price point. A great way of visualising this is through an expensive player…
Imagine we didn’t have any tax implications on our trades. We win players for a set price and we sell players for a set price:
As we can see, Ronaldo’s OTW card fluctuates throughout the day, by quite a lot. We can see that in a single day, he was being listed at a price of 2,750,000 coins and also at a price point of 3,075,000 in a single day.
That’s a different of 325,000 coins!
If there were no tax implications, you would be looking at almost 1/3rd of a million coins in a single sale. Unfortunately, this isn’t the case, and instead, after tax, the returns on this would be 171,250 coins, but this is still a lot!
This is all well and good, but how do we know when to buy and when to sell? For all we knew, 2,750,000 could have been his high point.
Who Should I Buy?
We’re looking for cards that fluctuate a lot. If a player rises and falls just a few hundred coins each day, there is little to no profit to be made buying and selling their card, which isn’t good news to us.
Luckily, we know that there is a set of cards that do fluctuate much more than others, and that is cards with no new supply. What cards fit this description best? It’s none other than special cards
If we want to be more specific, we want to look at older special cards, because they tend to have less supply on the market, meaning that it takes much less buying and selling on the market for a player to fluctuate much more dramatically.
Let’s go back to all the way back to TOTW 6…
Straight away we are going to rule out a lot of players; anyone with too little of a value should be ignored instantly.
Not only this, but we will also ignore any players that don’t fit into anyone’s squads. Unfortunately, that means we almost instantly get rid of every card 83 rated or lower, although there are exceptions to this, where an 83 Rated or lower player is very meta, and so has a lot of value and is played in teams.
For this example, let’s look at Di Maria for these reasons:
- He is a very usable card
- He will be bought by players and put into their teams
- He has lots of value
- He is a very rare card
- He’s not too expensive that we will have huge tax on him
This is how we choose a player to look at when it comes to flipping. Of course you will have plenty of choice, including the last 19 TOTW’s (although I would look at older TOTWs to ensure a card is rare enough), OTW cards (could be risky with OTW Winter coming very soon), TOTGS, Ultimate Scream, UCL Live Cards and FFS players.
When to Buy? When to Sell?
This is the most important part of course, as we want to minimising our coins spent, and maximising our prices we sell at.
We will continue with our Di Maria example…
We need to look at 5 different bits of info before we can get a good idea of when to buy and when to sell
The first 3 parts are easy, we will use FUTBIN to get an idea of what the average low point and average high point over the past 3 days are:
You may notice that I haven’t taken the very peek price, unless they were selling at that price often, or for a few hours at least, and this is likely just the lowest listing available and doesn’t mean that the card actually sold for 94k on the day, and so I took 92k as the high point. It is also better to underestimate the high point to ensure you’re looking at a price you’re confident you can sell this card at
When looking at prices from 1 day ago, we’re hoping to see something pretty similar to the today highs and lows, to ensure that there wasn’t just a single day where sales were extremely high or extremely low, skewing our idea for for the normal selling prices are
The same goes for when looking at prices a couple days ago; we want high and low prices to be close to that of today and yesterday, which so far looks good.
The next bit of info you want is to see a general price of all time for this card
What we’re taking from this is firstly the trend. We will see 1 of 3 things
1. Positive Trend
There’s a good chance that if you have to continue holding onto this card for whatever reason, that if the flip fails, you can simply wait out the prices for a while, sometimes a couple of weeks, until eventually you get a sale, simply due to the card becoming even more rare, or potentially more desirable (links to other players)
2. Neutral Trend
If the price is flat, and there doesn’t seem to be much change, there is a good chance that this card won’t be amazing for flipping but there is still potential. You will notice that the prices reach the same highs and lows constantly, and this makes for some very easy flips with very little effort. You can constantly buy at a set price and sell at a set price, over and over.
3. Negative Trend
If a player is falling in value, there is a good chance that there is a market crash occurring and so your players are simply dropping in price all round. This is very uncommon due to these rare cards not having any new supply, and will be very unlikely on much older cards. You can still flip these cards, however you want to make sure you’re getting a very good price and also undercutting much more significantly than you normally would (aim to sell under the high point price)
The next bit of info to take is the recent price. Get an idea of the average price for the last couple of weeks and make sure that the card isn’t on a sudden high due to some other reasons. You want to ensure that the cards you buy are actually worth the value you’re looking to buy and sell for.
This process may look very time consuming but it really isn’t, and will take you under 1 minute to look at some high and low points as well as a general price for the card.
The final piece of info you’re looking for is to see if there are any outside reasons for a players price to change. For example, if Di Maria were to get a new 87 Rated TOTW Card, then the older 86 would no longer be in demand. Anyone with the 86 will sell theirs from their clubs and buy the 87, and so you have now got way more supply available on the market. This would push prices down and give you the effect of a player currently being low in price. You would then buy under the assumption that you’re getting a good deal, but instead the price is falling dramatically, and so you’re getting a bad deal, despite it being a considerably lower price.
This can happen with tons of different reasons, should a better player drop and shadow the 86 Rated Card, or if players find that the club/League is no longer desirable, due to any requirements for the Weekend League…
This list could go on, and so that is why you will want some kind of general knowledge on how the market works, however as long as you know basics, such as a new, and better version of the same player will push down the price of the old card etc, then you should be fine.
So back to the main questions at hand, when should you buy, and when should you sell?
Keep an eye out on the available prices. From all the info given, I can see that Di Maria can be bought at around 82k at his lowest and sold for around 95k as a highest, although you’re much more likely to get a slightly lower sale, at around 92k. From here, factor in tax, and set some targets
Sale Price: 92k (87,400 After Tax)
Buy Price: 82k
And so I managed to buy this card:
Some extra points can be awarded if the card has a good chemistry style (players are willing to pay 1-2k extra)
If the card is fresh (never played a game), then they’re worth considerably more, due to players wanting a “fresh slate” on the card, so it’s only their stats on the card (these are very rare to find, but are worth a lot more, don’t ruin them by playing with the card if they are fresh)
I had set a target price of 82k and planned to buy a card on the market if he reached this point. I checked multiple times throughout the day, however some great times tend to be late at night when EU Players aren’t online (01:00 GMT – 08:00 GMT you may find a lot of deals, and then you will also find deals up until the afternoon, around 15:00 GMT). This isn’t to say that there won’t be plenty of good prices out there throughout the entire day, it simply may be a little harder.
Never buy more than 3x of a card you’re trying to flip!
The reason for this is that you not only have to buy the cards but you also have to sell them. If you’re holding 20 cards, you will have to sell them back to players, and it can sometimes take a few days to even sell a single card, so if you’re stuck with 20 cards over a long period of time, there’s a good chance of something happening causing the value of them to drop, and so you lose a lot of profit overall.
3 cards at most should be picked up when you’re confident about being able to sell them (try to do this when you know you have managed a sale before)
Eventually I managed to get this sale:
At 97k I was very surprised to get a sale, thinking I would get much less, but due to lots of fluctuating, I listed at the right time, receiving 92,150 coins after tax for total profit of 10,150 coins. Whilst this may not seem like much, you can see from the example that I was also flipping multiple cards at a time and had a total profit of 62,150 coins between just 3 cards!
The trick is to look at lots of different cards because 10k here and there adds up fast!
What did I do to get the sale?
Something that should also be noted is that I didn’t get the sale straight after buying. There were plenty of listings between 85-95k and so at the time, I had bought the cheapest card available by only a couple thousand coins.
To get this sale, I listed the card up for 1 hour at a time over and over, at a higher price than other cards, rather than undercutting.
Let’s take a look at an example:
We can see that the 4 cheapest cards currently range between 90k to 96k
In 30 minutes, the top 3 cards will expire, leaving 1 card at 90k and the next cheapest at 98k
So this card at 90k will look 8k too cheap to someone who isn’t good at flipping, or doesn’t know the value of his card, and will pick him up, leaving the new cheapest card on the market at 98k
Let’s say we list our card for 97k now, despite it being the 5th cheapest (no where near the cheapest), in 30 minutes time, it could easily be the cheapest, despite it being a much higher price than what is cheap right now.
It’s for this reason, you want to set a sale price and keep listing over and over because sometimes the price is up, sometimes the price is down, and this is simply the player fluctuating in price, which is the entire premise behind flipping players.
You need to know all the facts in order to flip cards effectively. At the lower end of things, you’re looking at profits sometimes at just 2k-10k, and on other cards you can expect 20k-50k. On very rare cards, you can even make yourself well over 100k on the card, however this is much more difficult to pull off and requires lots of luck.
You must learn everything rather than diving straight into flipping. So if you really want a TL;DR then here it is:
Buy Low, Sell High
For those willing to learn this method and make plenty of coins, work your way up to larger scale (100 different cards on your transfer list) and you can be looking at well over 250k a day, with huge profit margins, with very little work. Prepare to lose coins too, sometimes the market is slightly unpredictable, so purchase cards with caution, and don’t expect sales to be instant.
Don’t forget to diversify your investments too!
10 cards, 88,750 coins profit, 1 hour finding cards and buying them